Today, Norbert Preining wrote a blog post syndicated in planet talking about Sarah Sharp quitting Linux development, and making a parallel with the Debian community.

Once again, he's complaining about how the fun from Debian has been lost because making sexist jokes, or treating other people like shit is not allowed any more. He seems to think the LKML is the ideal environment and that Debian should be more like it.

He also celebrates that Ms Sharp12 left Linux, because evidently the freedom to be a jerk to each other is more important than the contributions that she -or any other person that finds that atmosphere toxic, like mjg- has produced or could have produced in the future.


I would like to tell readers of Planet Debian that this view is not the norm in Debian any more. We are working hard to make the project more inclusive, fun, and welcoming to everybody.

Sadly, some people are still pining for the good ol' days, and won't give up so easily on their privilege.


  1. Whom he calls "one more SJW", I guess then that after all, this is just about ethics in FOSS development. ↩

  2. At this point, using the term SJW in a discussion should equate to a Godwin, and mean that you lost the argument. ↩

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"Once again, he's complaining about how the fun from Debian has been lost because making sexist jokes, or treating other people like shit is not allowed any more."

^^^ Gigantic strawman and you know it.

Regardless of the tone (to be frank I didn't like it in the post your are quoting and the post you have written yourself) I am happy this discussion is taking place: without listening to what other people are saying we can't make a better environment for everyone.

Stay strong!

Comment by z4rg8
Thanks for your post

I absolutely agree with you, Tincho. Lots of thanks for verbalizing it.

Greetings, Miry

Comment by miry
One correction

Hi thanks for your comments concerning my blog post, I just want to correct one thing, because I consider this spreading lies and FUD. I nowhere stated that I am pro-sexist jokes. Your post suggests this, and I consider this very disregarding concerning a fellow DD. Read my critics of the CoC back in the times when it was up for discussion, and check that I never advocated sexists behaviour in any way, but opposed legislative consequences.

Anyway, have a nice day.

Comment by norbert
SJW

Wookey,

SJW means Social Justice Warrior, a term that started within the GamerGaters to discredit anyone challenging their ways.

Comment by tincho
Correction on SJW

Wookey,

Tincho is hopefully just naive about the origins of the phrase Social Justice Warrior (SJW).

It is spurious to attribute GamerGate with the term SJW when numerous sources that predate GamerGate exist using the term. For example, Urban Dictionary, which crowdsources definitions for all sorts of 'streetwise lingo', has definitions for the term, submitted in 2011, here and here.

Comment by blknaab